Post by ~ Seahawks 4 Life ~ on Feb 3, 2010 9:25:04 GMT -8
profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=QB&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1
This is from Pro Football Focus. They rated every player last year based on several categories. I've heard some people question how they do them, but they're interesting nonetheless. Keep in mind that this is based on how they played in 2009 only. My link above is set on the quarterbacks, there are links up top to the other positions. I also have it filtered to only include guys who were in on at least 25% of their team's snaps for their side of the ball. Most of the Seahawks rated poorly, as expected, but there was some good in there too.
A few things on the Seahawks:
The Good to Great
- Rob Sims ranked as the #8 overall OG. He rated well on run-blocking, but the amazing part was that he ranked #2 OG in the entire NFL in pass blocking. The only OG who ranked higher than Sims in pass blocking was Steve Hutchinson (of course), although Sims rated much higher than Hutchinson overall (Hutchinson was #38 overall, one spot behind Uche Nwaneri, whoever the heck that is). Sims was imputed for just one QB sack and one QB hit for the whole season.
- Justin Forsett was the #7 RB, ahead of guys like Adrian Peterson, Ryan Grant, DeAngelo Williams, Frank Gore, and Steven Jackson. I'm a little skeptical about the RB ratings though, because I can't imagine any universe where Chris Johnson was just the fourth best RB last season. Johnson lost points for being a poor blocker. Forsett ranked significantly higher than Julius Jones, who rated poorly in every category. Julius was #48 out of 63 RBs.
- David Hawthorne was the #10 ILB. He rated mediocre in coverage, but was #5 overall against the run.
- Colin Cole was the #9 DT against the run. However, he dropped to #26 overall (still good), because he ranked 86th out of 87 DTs at pass rushing.
- Darryl Tapp was the #4 ranked 4-3 DE against the run, which really surprised me. He was #53 at pass rushing, and #17 overall.
- Max Unger was the #6 OG in pass blocking. On the flip side to that though, he was awful at run blocking (#76 out of 84), which dropped him to #52 overall.
- Leroy Hill and Will Herring were #14 and #17 4-3 OLB, respectively.
- Jon Ryan was the #6 punter.
The Really, Really Bad
- According to their rankings, Sims was amazing and Spencer was OK (#20 center), but everyone else on the OL sucked. Locklear and Willis were the #40 and #42 OT's respectively. Willis was competent in pass blocking, while the two were bad at everything else. I mentioned the big discrepancy in Unger's game between the run and pass earlier.
- John Carlson was the #55 TE out of 61, and rated poorly in every category. Although, as badly as Carlson ranked, he somehow finished ahead of Vernon Davis, which I don't understand (looks like Vernon was a penalty machine). If you want a good laugh, look at who finished dead last at TE.
- Our highest rated safety by far was #21 Lawyer Milloy, who early in his career covered guys like Don Hutson and Guy Chamberlin. Deon Grant was #53 and Jordan Babineaux was #58. Babineaux was surprisingly good against the run though, which is a nice change from what we saw out of him early in his career. Babs probably still has nightmares about Brandon Marshall.
- Our WRs ranked embarrassingly low. The highest was Nate Burleson at #59, Deon Butler was #73, TJ Houshmandzadeh was #87, and Deion Branch was all the way down at #102 (out of 107).
- Josh Wilson was good (#21 CB), but the rest of the CBs ranked very low. Kelly Jennings was #41, Ken Lucas was #87, and Marcus Trufant was the Deion Branch of the CBs, ranking #104 out of 107.
- Aaron Curry was the #3 4-3 OLB at pass rushing, so why do I have him on the bad list? Out of 53 4-3 OLBs, Curry was second to last in coverage, below average against the run, and was by FAR the worst with penalties. He was the #52 4-3 OLB overall.
- They ranked 630 special teamers, and our highest ranked one was Lance Laury at #149. Kevin Houser, Owen Schmitt, and Deon Butler ranked especially bad there. Speaking of Schmitt, he was the #26 FB out of the 29 they ranked. Justin Griffith ranked quite a bit higher in every category (#11 overall).
- I already mentioned how poorly Julius Jones ranked, especially when juxtaposed with Justin Forsett.
Anything else stand out to anyone?
This is from Pro Football Focus. They rated every player last year based on several categories. I've heard some people question how they do them, but they're interesting nonetheless. Keep in mind that this is based on how they played in 2009 only. My link above is set on the quarterbacks, there are links up top to the other positions. I also have it filtered to only include guys who were in on at least 25% of their team's snaps for their side of the ball. Most of the Seahawks rated poorly, as expected, but there was some good in there too.
A few things on the Seahawks:
The Good to Great
- Rob Sims ranked as the #8 overall OG. He rated well on run-blocking, but the amazing part was that he ranked #2 OG in the entire NFL in pass blocking. The only OG who ranked higher than Sims in pass blocking was Steve Hutchinson (of course), although Sims rated much higher than Hutchinson overall (Hutchinson was #38 overall, one spot behind Uche Nwaneri, whoever the heck that is). Sims was imputed for just one QB sack and one QB hit for the whole season.
- Justin Forsett was the #7 RB, ahead of guys like Adrian Peterson, Ryan Grant, DeAngelo Williams, Frank Gore, and Steven Jackson. I'm a little skeptical about the RB ratings though, because I can't imagine any universe where Chris Johnson was just the fourth best RB last season. Johnson lost points for being a poor blocker. Forsett ranked significantly higher than Julius Jones, who rated poorly in every category. Julius was #48 out of 63 RBs.
- David Hawthorne was the #10 ILB. He rated mediocre in coverage, but was #5 overall against the run.
- Colin Cole was the #9 DT against the run. However, he dropped to #26 overall (still good), because he ranked 86th out of 87 DTs at pass rushing.
- Darryl Tapp was the #4 ranked 4-3 DE against the run, which really surprised me. He was #53 at pass rushing, and #17 overall.
- Max Unger was the #6 OG in pass blocking. On the flip side to that though, he was awful at run blocking (#76 out of 84), which dropped him to #52 overall.
- Leroy Hill and Will Herring were #14 and #17 4-3 OLB, respectively.
- Jon Ryan was the #6 punter.
The Really, Really Bad
- According to their rankings, Sims was amazing and Spencer was OK (#20 center), but everyone else on the OL sucked. Locklear and Willis were the #40 and #42 OT's respectively. Willis was competent in pass blocking, while the two were bad at everything else. I mentioned the big discrepancy in Unger's game between the run and pass earlier.
- John Carlson was the #55 TE out of 61, and rated poorly in every category. Although, as badly as Carlson ranked, he somehow finished ahead of Vernon Davis, which I don't understand (looks like Vernon was a penalty machine). If you want a good laugh, look at who finished dead last at TE.
- Our highest rated safety by far was #21 Lawyer Milloy, who early in his career covered guys like Don Hutson and Guy Chamberlin. Deon Grant was #53 and Jordan Babineaux was #58. Babineaux was surprisingly good against the run though, which is a nice change from what we saw out of him early in his career. Babs probably still has nightmares about Brandon Marshall.
- Our WRs ranked embarrassingly low. The highest was Nate Burleson at #59, Deon Butler was #73, TJ Houshmandzadeh was #87, and Deion Branch was all the way down at #102 (out of 107).
- Josh Wilson was good (#21 CB), but the rest of the CBs ranked very low. Kelly Jennings was #41, Ken Lucas was #87, and Marcus Trufant was the Deion Branch of the CBs, ranking #104 out of 107.
- Aaron Curry was the #3 4-3 OLB at pass rushing, so why do I have him on the bad list? Out of 53 4-3 OLBs, Curry was second to last in coverage, below average against the run, and was by FAR the worst with penalties. He was the #52 4-3 OLB overall.
- They ranked 630 special teamers, and our highest ranked one was Lance Laury at #149. Kevin Houser, Owen Schmitt, and Deon Butler ranked especially bad there. Speaking of Schmitt, he was the #26 FB out of the 29 they ranked. Justin Griffith ranked quite a bit higher in every category (#11 overall).
- I already mentioned how poorly Julius Jones ranked, especially when juxtaposed with Justin Forsett.
Anything else stand out to anyone?
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